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Riding in Holland (Safety & Legals)

Post  pdn561 on Thu 26 May 2016, 17:23

Afternoon all,

I've been having a dig around on the Dutch government website for some guidance on what is required of us as motorcyclists during our upcoming visit.

So far I've struggled to get any official guidance on the specifics, but I have found out loads of stuff about self-driving truck convoys...(!)
The Dutch seem to take a more provincial approach to enforcement that we're used to from the DVLA in blighty, so perhaps I need to go to the regional government sites and see what they say?

By all means, any seasoned riders familiar with the country, please do fill in the gaps, but in the meantime I'll keep looking. The topics I am hoping to clear-up are:

  • A copy of the equivalent of our Highway Code (in English)
  • Vehicular requirements (if any e.g. headlamp adjustments, reflectors, fog lights, etc.)
  • Driving requirments (if any e.g. breathaliser, first aid kit, warning triangle, etc.)
  • General good practice and local riding tips


At least then I'll have an idea about what I'm doing wrong when i get there!

Cheers,
Paul.

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Re: Riding in Holland (Safety & Legals)

Post  The Prospector on Thu 26 May 2016, 19:38

Don't know about Holland but for France you need to carry a hiviz in case of breakdown including passengers certainly for car's and I think bikes are now included. Headlights they don't usually bother about. Carry all documents, originals not photocopys.
Couple of riding points at a stop sign stop and put a foot down, nice little earner for them that one and on normal roads a village name sign also indicates a reduced speed limit even if not posted usually 50kph probably be similar in most European countries.
They will give you a lift to a cash point if you get a fine though Laughing

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Post  thecoventrykid on Thu 26 May 2016, 22:46

I have the European drivers handbook by the A.A. it tells all.
I am sure they offer same info online
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Re: Riding in Holland (Safety & Legals)

Post  Hammy on Fri 27 May 2016, 08:32

When I did my euro trip (France, Italy, Austria, Poland, Czech, Holland, Luxembourg, Belgium, Germany) my MX5 a few years ago, the only things we needed to take with us was :

Breathalizer
Hi-Viz jackets and warning triangle
Spare fuses (optional)
Spares bulbs (Requirement)
Adjusted headlight stick on covers (Requirement but personally didn't make any difference)
Torch (optional)

Holland was no problem at all (apart from wet) and the roads are fairly smooth in comparison to other countries we passed through.

If you're taking spare fuel check with the chunnel/ferry operator beforehand as you don't want it confiscated on arrival.

Apart from that, have fun !

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Re: Riding in Holland (Safety & Legals)

Post  Guzzer on Fri 27 May 2016, 10:13

Ref spare fuel, I've found an interesting discrepancy confused

You can't take any spare fuel on a ferry (certainly P&O)

Here's the interesting one...... I've contacted the Chunnel operators & on their website it states you can carry upto 10 litres in a proper plastic fuel can with a maximum of 30 litres or 20 litres in a metal fuel can (Jerry can). That is the quantities stated per vehicle.
So I called them to ask if that meant motorcycles also. The kind operator even asked her supervisor to verify it & yes you can take upto 30 litres of spare fuel even on a motorcycle. Shocked

Here's where it gets the red tape treatment.

I'm pretty sure that when you enter the tunnel at Folkestone there's no choice but to exit it in Calais. So if you carry the permitted 30 litres under the channel when you pop out in Calais you're breaking the law as in France you're only permitted to carry 10 litres of fuel. Any extra will be confiscated & there's even the chance you'll get fined.
BLOODY FRENCH !
There's gonna be loads of families going over there next week in the hols who are in for an unpleasant time when & if they get searched by the French border police.
Don't cha just love it oh dear me

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Re: Riding in Holland (Safety & Legals)

Post  pdn561 on Fri 27 May 2016, 11:41

I'm telling you guys, camouflaged "petrol panniers" are the future of French road travel!

By the sounds of it, buying spare clothes once you get there will be easier and cheaper than finding a fuel station with stock left...

Joking aside, you would hope the blockades will be sorted by then, so fingers crossed for that!

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Re: Riding in Holland (Safety & Legals)

Post  Erwin K on Fri 27 May 2016, 12:07

Spare fuel isn't really a necessity, most stations are within 25 km (in Holland).

Speed limits:
City : 30 or 50 kph (signs)
outside city's : 60 or 80 kph (signs)
Highways : 100 or 120 or 130 kph (signs)

Hi-Viz is't a requirement just recommended.
Most petrol stations carry fuses and bulbs.
Warning triangle is't required for motorcycles
Lights during daytime is recommended.


Lanesplitting
Lanesplitting is not forbidden in the Netherlands, but there are some rules you should adhere to on motorways:

You should ride between the leftmost lane and the lane next to that lane, and
the difference in speed between you and the cars should not be too big (max 10 kph).
Try to watch your mirrors, and let other motorcycle riders who are faster than you pass you.

At traffic lights
In the Netherlands, you can also split lanes to ride to the front of rows of cars for a red light.
Of course, you should be fast enough when the light turns green: the cars should not have to wait for you.


Breathalizer = Nope now now







The police do love their camera and laser traps.  

Camera's (digital) use IR lights, so No Flash.
Detectors and shields are illegal.


Road Traffic Signs and Regulations in the Netherlands:
https://goo.gl/eR9Uc0

List of traffic fines (Dutch):
http://goo.gl/xoVrz9

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Post  majalomalk on Fri 27 May 2016, 14:38

respect erwin

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Re: Riding in Holland (Safety & Legals)

Post  Mick on Fri 27 May 2016, 15:35

Erwin - Hi-Viz is't a requirement just recommended.

But if your travelling via France it is now a requirement to carry one.

http://www.worldmotorcycletours.co.uk/travel-information/french-advise

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Re: Riding in Holland (Safety & Legals)

Post  Erwin K on Fri 27 May 2016, 16:55

Mick, You will want to bring a First-Aid kit conform DIN-13164 then.
And a fire extinguisher.
And a second Hi-Viz for a passenger.

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Post  Guzzer on Fri 27 May 2016, 17:30

And we think we've got it bad over here eyebrows

I'll soon need a blinking trailer lol.

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Post  Mick on Fri 27 May 2016, 17:39

@Erwin K wrote:Mick, You will want to bring a First-Aid kit conform DIN-13164 then.
And a fire extinguisher.
And a second Hi-Viz for a passenger.

Im was just pointing it out for those going via France, its also a requirement to carry one
for your passenger. Im not going, so couldn't care less. Laughing Laughing wink

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Re: Riding in Holland (Safety & Legals)

Post  The Prospector on Fri 27 May 2016, 18:02

@Erwin K wrote:Mick, You will want to bring a First-Aid kit conform DIN-13164 then.
And a fire extinguisher.
And a second Hi-Viz for a passenger.
The hi-viz are requirements and if not worn you must be able to reach them without dismounting.
First aid kit and fire extinguisher are not required.
This is en francais of course.

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Re: Riding in Holland (Safety & Legals)

Post  pdn561 on Sat 04 Jun 2016, 02:37

Has anybody found a good deal on travel insurance that allows motorcycling? (Just in case that shitty stormy weather makes it over to Holland and spoils things.)

Also been thinking about whether specialist Dutch motorcycle breakdown cover is a worthwhile investment? (Might just get a puncture repair kit and cross my fingers.)

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Post  Sparks on Sat 04 Jun 2016, 20:03

@pdn561 wrote:Has anybody found a good deal on travel insurance that allows motorcycling? (Just in case that shitty stormy weather makes it over to Holland and spoils things.)

Also been thinking about whether specialist Dutch motorcycle breakdown cover is a worthwhile investment? (Might just get a puncture repair kit and cross my fingers.)

bike

Got the puncture repair kit just in case and the breakdown recovery for £25 but we will never need it because we're British and we have the stiff upper lip type thingy going on so we will laugh in the face of it all, apparently Smile

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Re: Riding in Holland (Safety & Legals)

Post  owl1947 on Sun 05 Jun 2016, 16:31

For the last 25 years 1ve done six weeks abroad each year and  thousands and thousands miles  . (not going abroad again )
For me just make sure you have brake down insurance  and a puncture repair kit ( used ten times not on my bike )
and all your paper work , carry your passport at all times .

Just ride safe and think of other drivers
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